The Everyday Millionaire Show
Ryan Greenberg and Nick Kalfas are two Maryland based business owners and investors. Ryan and Nick discuss topics such as basics of financial literacy, building businesses, investing, and real estate. This podcast is for people looking to achieve financial freedom.
The Everyday Millionaire Show
How Charlie Kirk's Death Will Destroy America (Ironman Prep, American Divide, REI Chaos)
Join Ryan, Nick, and Chase on a brand new episode as they discuss the real estate market, as it faces a mix of challenges and opportunities, leading to a "corrugated" or uneven recovery rather than universal struggles. The conversation deep dives on their opinions behind Charlie Kirk's death and how society is more divided now more than ever. Plus, Ryan and Chase share their experiences as they prepare for their first full Ironman race. If you're an investor who prioritizes physical wellness and is hopeful about the future of our nation, then this episode is for you.
Welcome to the Everyday Millionaire Show with Ryan Greenberg and Nick Kalkas. Alright, guys, welcome back to another episode of the Everyday Millionaire Show. We're here today doing another internal with Nick and Chasey Boy. What's going on, guys?
Speaker 2:What's going on. What's going on.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we were going to have a cool guest we're going to have in the future talking about assisted living space, which is something that has piqued my interest before. I don't know if you guys have ever.
Speaker 3:I actually talked to somebody about assisted living. Might have been the same person For you to like move into one. No, ryan, for you I was planning your future, but no, he does assisted living and it was at the Everyday Millionaire event that I talked to him about it.
Speaker 2:So I have two properties, that it's not assisted living and I don't run the business out of it, but one guy who rents my two properties runs a. I think it's like a rehabilitation. They're just townhouses but there's multiple rooms and he just is able to bring them in and have a full-time staff there at the property to take care of whoever comes there, and the government pays for it. So anytime that the government's involved with funding, it's a great business to get into.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we'll have him on in the next couple weeks, but that'll be a cool episode. So it's been a while since we've actually recorded a podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's like two years. I feel like Two years. It's probably been while since we've actually recorded a podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like two years. I feel like Two years. It's probably been like a month, definitely since an internal one at least, yeah, so I guess we could do a little update. Nick, you said you are. I thought I saw you refinancing a property the other day on Instagram, is that not?
Speaker 2:It was probably a purchase or a sale. Lately I have not done any refinances. And then what I mean by lately? Probably the last four or five months.
Speaker 1:Just just flipping.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just flipping. You know, finding new deals that are appealing for flipping versus buying holds A lot of it when I first started doing that I mean I've been doing that now for like a year and a half, like more. So flipping but also acquiring rentals, but right now it's just been strictly flipping. I did acquire a rental that I haven't refinanced yet, you know, a month or so ago, but everything else has been buying and selling, primarily at first because of high interest rates and then with the whole DSCR situation that happened here in Baltimore. It's, I've heard, it's getting tough to refinance with the DSCR loan.
Speaker 3:So I guess, I started flipping at a good time, so how are you?
Speaker 1:finding good deals right now, because I just feel like everything that I'm looking at, like I used to have a standard of like okay, if I'm not going to make x amount percent or x amount like dollar signs, I'm not going to do this job like do you have like a threshold that you're looking for?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I won't buy to make $20,000 a flip.
Speaker 3:It's just not worth it for me, you won't buy it if you can't make $20,000?.
Speaker 2:No, if I only make $20,000.
Speaker 3:Right so anything below $20,000, you're turning away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, anything below $30,000 or $40,000, I won't. And some of the areas, like you guys know, I love pig town, like there's probably my last. Three of my last four flips have been in pig town. I know the area very well so when something comes up I don't need time to analyze, I just know exactly how these houses are set up, on what streets and what sells better and what part of pig town than other areas. So they have been. You know, three flips in that area. I've done so. I already, like, knew the numbers. I can dial in quickly, act quickly, call the agent quickly or the wholesaler as soon as I see it pop up and offer um offer on that property. Um, are you seeing?
Speaker 2:how to sit longer yeah, yeah for sure, I had. Um, well, it's little. I've seen properties sit longer. Yes, now there's. It's weird because there's a lot of active listings in Pigtown that sit longer. However, I've been lucky and fortunate to where, when I post mine in Pigtown they go pretty quickly and I sold one at 774 West cross street and that had a lot of activity. It was a little bit closer to the stadiums, a little bit farther away from Washington Boulevard, which is a more desirable area, and then I was at the same time I was flipping one on Sargent Street, which is a little bit lesser desirable area, pigtown, and also changes zip codes, and there were agents that were looking at a house next door one agent and a buyer of the one in Sergeant Street and my contractors were working on mine and they were looking at the active listing next door to mine and they asked my contractors if they can walk through.
Speaker 2:The house wasn't even 70% done. There was no floors installed. I don't think there was any countertop installed yet, the cabinets weren't, but it was just a mess and we were just under construction and they immediately called me. They're like hey, we want to put an offer on this house. They're like how much do you want? And I told him how much I wanted. It was like 20 grand more than the house next door, that's completely done, or whatever. And they were like let's do it.
Speaker 2:And they wrote an offer on it that that same day it might have been the next day and we weren't under contract and I don't know why they were like this one just shows better, and I'm like, well, my house not even. It's not even done yet. I guess they were just visualizing how it's going to be done.
Speaker 3:Um well, chase could talk on that, because he just sold a couple of pre-sold houses same thing basically yeah I mean so right now, like the market, the market seems like buyers are really scary, like they're scared of everything, so they I've had two or three deals blow up recently and we can dive into one of them. But it's interesting that you're like having buyers walk through and be like yeah, like I'm ready to pull the trigger because, like right now, I'm seeing a lot of the opposite.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so one under contract to where when the and I? It was in that period where you need two appraisals for FHA. When their first appraisal came, the house still wasn't even done yet, so they had ordered their appraisal. Did they have to wait 90 days? For what an fha. Yeah, yeah, no, they so. Like it had, they had to order two appraisals. I get, I think, because it was in within six months?
Speaker 1:I think that's the third. So did have you owned the property for more than 90 days?
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah that's, that's the, so your close date, and then there's a 90-day threshold from when they can close or write the contract.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah yeah, no, I wasn't, it wasn't that quick. Yeah, it wasn't that quick, but, gotcha, we were under construction for you know, a couple months, yeah, and it rolled into that probably over 90 days gotcha but I was surprised because the lender didn't even reach out. I guess the buyer's agent didn't let the lender know like hey, maybe you should wait. But another thing is, I didn't have to stage it, I don't have to pay, you know 13.50 to have a stage.
Speaker 1:I didn't have to pay for photos yeah, did they ask you for anything like to pick the paint colors or anything like that?
Speaker 3:no, because that's very good to be a painter, yeah, yeah, that's been really tricky. Um. Are you listing your own flips too?
Speaker 2:yeah. So they came and looked at that property and they were like there was another one that we were interested in, but I wanted a contract. I was like which one was it? And they said seven support wars cross. And I said, oh, that was mine too. Oh, so, I guess, because they put two and two together, they realized, like do you know, this house is going to be done the same way as that one.
Speaker 2:That's why they were like oh I want this one instead of the one next door that was for sale for twenty thousand dollars less are you just a wild man just listing your own flips out there, all that liability. Yeah, I mean, I got jammed up at least once.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I got a $5,000 fine or whatever through the GBBR yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I guess it's easier when it's not like you're. I mean, being an agent isn't really your career field, so it's like if you get hit, it is what it is. You just eat it as an investment.
Speaker 1:I mean $5,000. If you get hit, it is what it is, you just eat it as an investment.
Speaker 3:I mean five grand and all the deals. Yeah, it's not that bad, you're saving money. I mean we pay people like on my team like flat fees or whatever, to list ours, just to remove that liability piece. But like if I lose my license, I mean that's, this is what I do full-time. So like then I'd have to turn into an investor full-time and be like you so, which wouldn't be a bad thing no, not at all full-time investor right now is tough business I feel like it would be tough, tough business.
Speaker 2:It's more managing right now for me with just managing the portfolio yeah occupying vacant units, turning over units quickly, getting them occupied quickly, and it's a struggle right now with units. I feel like a lot of things are sitting and it's going to become more difficult, heading into the fall and winter. Yeah, getting uh property is the rental market slowing down too like placing tenants, everything is slow really.
Speaker 3:Uh, I just noticed that, like, if it's not turnkey and it has to be sharp, if it's not sharp, buyers get super scared. Um, actually just talked to one of my sellers recently. Um glenn bernie property we listed originally. This is a newer investor, just got her contractor's license Probably one of the bigger projects I've seen you know an investor do as far as, like she gutted the whole entire house piping, hvac, plumbing, everything, pulled it all, redid, everything, permits, everything. Um listed at five, 60,.
Speaker 3:The agent wasn't moving it. She called me, wanted me to list it. I told her hey, I'm not going to list it unless we're at like five, 30, five, 40. Um, because I it's Glen Burnie, right, like you know, I I think the price range on that one, which is a little high, and so we ended up, to make a long story short, we ended up getting down to four, 70, a cash offer, no financing contingencies, no appraisal contingencies. There was a seven day inspection contingency. They went through their inspection contingency, had a mold test. The agent forgot to send me the pin or just I don't know. She just had a lapse. She calls me, she's like Chase, I messed up. She was like I forgot to send you the pin. There's a mold issue. The buyers want to back out and I was like, yeah, you did mess up, didn't you? So they're forfeiting their 5K EMD after we told them we will take care of everything. Give them a certificate and a mold test.
Speaker 2:They don't care. But what did them not sending you the pin have to do with them backing out, because it was?
Speaker 3:outside of their contingency. They're outside of their contingency.
Speaker 2:They're outside of their contingency window, so they didn't send it. She didn't send the pin within the seven days. Gotcha, okay, but you guys agreed to any way to fix it, but they were still backing out, so it didn't matter.
Speaker 3:Yeah, of course my seller didn't want to lose a deal. She's been on the market for like four or five months.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying is even if they would have sent, they probably would have terminated the contract and not gotten charged their emd.
Speaker 2:Oh, because they didn't send you the business.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah that's what I'm saying, though. Like these buyers don't even care and they're just gonna forfeit a 5k emd. Luckily with her company, she's with redfin, so redfin is reimbursing them. But I told her today because or yesterday because she and she was like, well, the sellers don't really want to release it. They feel like you guys knew about the mold. And I was like, well, you can tell them.
Speaker 3:Good luck, you know, trying to prove that, because we didn't have a mold test, we didn't have anything. And if it was another investor, right, that didn't pull permits or something like that, like I probably wouldn't have spoken so confidently and just been like, hey, like we probably move along before, like it gets ugly. But like with her, I'm very confident because she pulled everything, she has all her permits straightened away, um, and she's losing money on this deal. So if we go back to market just talked to a lawyer the other day about this if we go back to market and we sell it for less than what the contract the price is right now, since they are in breach of contract the buyer could be responsible for damages so.
Speaker 3:So if we sell it for 20 K less, she could go sue them for 20 K less and all the interest hard interest money that she's paying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, can you briefly describe what a pin is for everyone listening?
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's the property inspection notice. And so, like this is something that I've seen a lot of agents the one on a old Hartford mess on your property messed that up. Remember she didn't send it for two weeks, yeah, and it costed her clients one percent in that deal. And so the property inspection notice is you have a contingency period for your inspection period, typically seven to ten days, and that's for you to get the property inspected and send over this property inspection notice, which is you requesting any repairs done that was found on the inspection. And so if you don't get that over within the seven calendar days let's be very specific here unless somebody puts in there it's business days it's always default calendar days, so that's Saturday and Sunday, and if you don't hit that time frame then you're out of your contingency window and you would be in breach of contract and the seller doesn't have to fix anything. So we were even offering to fix the problem and they still didn't want to go.
Speaker 2:So I just had a contract fallout and I'm concerned now because when I go to homescom it shows the days on market as the days we were under contract in addition to when I first listed it. So let's say I was days on market before I were under contract, in addition to, like you know, when I first listed it. So like, let's say I was under, let's say I was days on market before I went under contract originally, let's say it was 13 days and I was under contract for 45 days. It's showing like all those days, yep, and then I went to the mls but then then it like took it off to where it shows just when I went back active again. But then I'm worried like is it going to get pushed out there as it would for a new listing Because it was off, it was under contract within like 13 days went off the market basically because it was under contract for 45 days. And now I'm like relisting it and this is a create.
Speaker 2:I've never had an experience like this ever. It was a single family house in Baltimore City. I bought it from an auction, a local auction company here in Baltimore, and there was a guy living in there. We got him evicted after we closed on the property because it was a foreclosure, did the whole entire renovation permits and everything Got my UNO Got it under contract.
Speaker 2:The buyer got a home inspection. Obviously, they ran the water for like 30 minutes. There started to become like a pond out back as they're running the water and I'm like it was like 20 feet from the back. I'm like okay, easy fix. They put in the pin request and we're like we're gonna fix everything. We start digging. We dug like six inches and we hit like a concrete and then we dug around and it was like a concrete circle and we took the lid off. It was a freaking old cesspool in the backyard. It wasn't even on public sewer, it was on public water. And to think baltimore city you're thinking like every other house around there has public sewer. It's just the way that this house was positioned.
Speaker 2:It didn't have public, so yeah so I'm like I've I like never in a million years would have thought because I don't do houses in harford county and areas where you know well and septic are, you know commonly found, and then, after like learning about everything, there's only 19 septic systems in Baltimore City. But this wasn't even a septic system, it was like an old cesspool. So like the difference between a septic system and a cesspool is like a cesspool. It was like made way before septic systems even existed and I think they took the old well and made that the cesspool pit and then kind of just ran like one drain field out into the woods so I'm like this is a nightmare.
Speaker 2:So anyway, I called septic companies. I called plumbers, like what can we do? And septic companies were like if we go to put a permit in for a new septic system, that if there's public sewer close by the city is most likely going to make you connect. And I said how much you think that will cost. They said to do everything, probably close to a hundred thousand dollars. I'm like there's no way I'm paying a hundred thousand dollars to get something in here that's a functional sewer system. So I called a couple of plumbers and it's like a utility worker that I had to get in touch with.
Speaker 2:It's not a regular plumber and I've learned all of this along the way. Ana are you using? I don't know what the company was called, but my plumber connected me with the utility guy and they were able to come out, connect it to the main, but the buyer got cold feet. And they were able to come out, connected to the the main um, but the buyer got cold feet and they backed out.
Speaker 1:So now that's how much did it cost you?
Speaker 3:16 000 yeah did they back out contingency?
Speaker 2:yeah, I mean, I felt bad also because I had no clue there was. It was on that and they just felt.
Speaker 2:You know, they were like I didn't disclose it, but I didn't. As soon as I, as soon as they failed, the inspection failed for that water coming out the backyard. I didn't fail, but it was like in the inspection report, when we started digging, that's when we realized we're like hey look, this is a cesspool like this isn't even connected to this public sewer. When I listed it, I listed it on the public sewer because I thought and that's something I've never done I never snaked a drain on a house like and you don't run water in the houses that you're doing full renovations on because they're fully under construction, so you don't have water to run I now get a camera because I just had one of our rentals that it ended up costing me 20 it was like 20, some 24 000 to fix, and I got 10 000 back from insurance but the pipe ran underneath the entire basement and it was.
Speaker 1:It ended up being cast iron we finished the whole basement like four or five years ago they had to tear up the entire basement floor. We had shit coming up in the um sump pump and we were like, how is shit getting in the sump pump? There was a broken pipe, basically a rotted pipe, underground and it was going into the drain tile and so we had to. We had to literally. So yeah, there was poop like literally getting like just caught up in the sump pump drain. It was crazy. So they had to tear up the entire floor, all the LVP flooring, concrete excavation, dig in a new pipe, lay it down, basically refinish the entire basement. It was a fucking nightmare. So now, whenever the especially if it's if the clean out's in the back, we would just assume that the pipe went back you know, towards the back.
Speaker 1:It went all the way up to the front, to the front.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So I've been just it's like 400 bucks to have a camp like a guy come out.
Speaker 2:Well, no, it's like I'm thinking about my. My main guy was like we should just buy one. I have one, 1500, I have two grand, but I have one, but it's like a.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like a cheapy one.
Speaker 2:Um, it was, I think it was less than a thousand bucks, but the, the plumbers can actually like, look and like, diagnose, like so if I can get yeah, like whatever that is, if that's like around two thousand dollars, that's probably worth it, because then you pay for your first five. You know, your first five snakes that you do, or cameras, or your next five houses, then it pays for it yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it was more. I think his is like a lot more.
Speaker 3:That happened at one of your rentals, though, or like a property you're managing. No one of mine that we own, oh, lord so how?
Speaker 2:why did the insurance only cover a portion of it so?
Speaker 1:insurance only covers the damages occurred because of the leak. They don't cover. Oh, the actual pipe, the actual pipe yeah so that happened.
Speaker 3:Something similar happened at benfield the driveway and stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, luckily that was all outside, though. Yeah, this was through the whole inside of the fucking house, and that's.
Speaker 2:That's just crazy. And you mentioned cast iron like that's the worst type of material. Once years go by and for it to be running across the whole entire base finished basement, unfinished basement much easier, but have run across the whole finished basement and then to make matters worse, my tenant has been there since I rebuilt the house and she's super nice, but she has the basement.
Speaker 1:Like her family member, uncle whatever lives down there and pays rent. So he couldn't live there during this like month of time that we were renovating it. So I had to give her like relief on rent too, obviously, because she couldn't use half of her fucking house. So I probably gave her another five thousand or so dollars and just rent free rent damn so that was a.
Speaker 1:That was a tough one. So now, from now on on, I just want to see what that looks like, because if there's metal, even if there's PVC in the house, that doesn't mean yeah, it could be in the ground as cast iron. They could have put a fur coat right on top of that metal and put a piece of PVC in there, and you would never know, unless you put a camera down there or a jack in there.
Speaker 2:I mean in most scenarios. Even when you do a full renovation and you run pvc from the ground all the way through the house, they don't. Most of the time people don't go and dig in the front yards to replace the main line, they just you know, connect it like you said until yeah, until it breaks.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, so that that was. That was a shitty, literal shitty. Uh, shitty couple weeks for for one of our properties. That's what's tough like right now, like people that are buying these properties without any cash flow, like that, just eight to four years of my cash flow, just that one issue.
Speaker 2:So if, like you, don't have deep pockets and you're not making cash flow on your properties, like you got to be careful because yeah one of those things can kill you no 100 and I, every month, I still get, like you know, paper statements for my mortgages, for all the properties, and I'll, you know, open them all up by myself and I'll just look at it and I'm like every time I see the ones that were like refinanced, that four and a quarter, or the ones that are like 120 000 debt due or less, I'm like happy about those.
Speaker 3:And then when I see the ones that were like bought a little bit higher and the higher interest rates, I'm like from this one to that one, it's like a huge difference and you can clearly see that just looking at these two pieces of paper here yeah, I've been looking at some deals just in like this area and you know, obviously like pasadena, glenn, bernie, arnold, like there's some, there's some nice houses that you can scoop for like 350, 370, but like the cash flow, like you're saying, is like 150, 200. And I'm just like dude, even if I replace everything like just one issue, one issue goes wrong.
Speaker 2:Yeah, a maintenance issue, right, could go wrong. But a bigger thing is like tenant, like turnovers, yeah, you know. Non payment, yeah, rehab after a tenant moves out, just to get it turned over, because that's like now, you're holding on to like a 350 000 mortgage versus like 150 000 mortgage during those periods.
Speaker 1:So I will say, though, I manage stuff on all ends of the spectrum, from section eight all the way to million dollar houses here in sabernet park, and typically the nicer, the higher end, the turnovers are a lot less because the tenants actually take care of the place, they actually clean it up, they actually do what they're supposed to do. So like a lot of the times with like some of the, I would say like all the stuff that's in the canton, like really high end, we can move people in and out like in the same week.
Speaker 2:It's yeah, like very desirable. I've noticed that with like certain areas and then you compare it to like dundalk, like dundalk, essex middle river, I feel like tenants are all over it, whereas if you're in like, maybe, bell or addison or even pigtown, it's a little bit slower for tenants to move on those versus the ones that are in like the county areas.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and and I think that's part of management too you just got to be super strict with management and charge them. Like we're just going to collections with people on on stuff, if, if they're not, if they're going to ruin the house, it takes years to collect the money. But like people have to be held accountable.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, it's a lesson learned for them. You know, if nobody ever does anything, then they're going to be like I can do it again to the next landlord. So it's good regardless, like I said. Like, like you said, and I know as well that you'd file collections, you might not even see that money, but it's also a point made to that tenant, like maybe they'll, on their end, not screw it up again for the next landlord.
Speaker 2:Or at least the landlord will see it on record Like oh, this person has a collections case. Let me be more cautious when I'm screening them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was just talking to Sean about like just buying in general and like we were going through a couple of different options of like, all right, well, I mean, does it even make sense, like right now? It just seems like he was like, why are you trying to buy so hard? And I was like, dude, it just seems like a good time. Like when everybody else starts getting cold feet, it's like it seems like that's a good time and you start seeing price drops. I'm like dude, I feel like there's deals even on market that could be had. But like a lot of the wholesale deals I still don't see like makes. I got sent one that was in my neighborhood yesterday, a sub two deal in my neighborhood and the dude's like, yeah, the, the monthly payment is 2800, the long-term rent is 2800.
Speaker 2:I was like what?
Speaker 3:and then he's like short-term and mid-term. I'm like, hey, dude, just let you know this is my neighborhood. The hoa won't allow a short-term rental like you could do mid-term rental, but it has to be 90 days yeah, I feel like you know they try.
Speaker 2:You know a lot of these wholesalers. They want to do something. I give them credit for at least trying but at the same time they don't.
Speaker 1:Most of them don't know their numbers and that's the sad part about a lot, just a lot of people are. A lot of the back-end buyers of those wholesalers are losing money right now that glenn bernie, do that agent or that contractor.
Speaker 3:She bought from a wholesaler. The wholesaler made 50 bands off her 50 racks um and she's losing like 80 000 right now by the day that's.
Speaker 1:That's a very common thing that I'm seeing. That's why I mean talk, talk about my business a little bit like I'm not doing work for investors anymore. I'm pretty much done Like, besides the big stuff, the big commercial stuff.
Speaker 2:Is that because it's has it slowed down from your customer standpoint, or have you just been like it's just not making sense for you, as in your business?
Speaker 1:It just doesn't make sense to do the projects, because all these people get to the end and they run out of money. They things always cost more than what they think it's going to cost, um, and they just they don't want to pay. They don't want to pay.
Speaker 3:So, but your, your customer clientele has changed too. Like serena park has really picked up for you as well. So like I think that's I've seen it shift on my perspective like dude, we were talking about flipping, just like. He's like dude, I got like three additions and I got 12 kitchens I'm doing right now. He's like why would I flip? And I'm like dude, that makes sense, like you should be, you know doing homeowner stuff, and I think that's picked up for you right.
Speaker 1:Yeah. So like the typical investor, I would scrape by like 10% net, you know, at the end of the day. So if I did a hundred thousand dollar job, maybe I'm making 10 grand. Hundred thousand dollar job, you think, probably is like a two, three month job. You make at the end of the day 10 grand, whereas like a nice master bathroom remodel, I would make 10 grand and it would take seven days. So like why would I go buy a house, pay the lender, do all this stuff, take the risk, when I could just go build a bathroom, a kitchen?
Speaker 2:make more.
Speaker 1:An addition, you make more and we're actually just another thing we can talk about. I just engaged with a marketing agency, a local marketing agency in Canton, and it's funny. I was actually like Googling. I was at the beach this week in obx and I was just googling maryland-based um marketing companies for construct. I wanted something for, like that, new contracting companies and construction companies, and the first one that came up on google I was like looking through their um pictures and about me and all that stuff.
Speaker 1:And I saw a dude that I knew from my gym that lives in shipley's. He's like all right, my age, our age and and, um, he, I knew he did some sort of marketing for, like construction companies and I saw his face. I texted him and I hit him up and I had a sales call with them and they're going to take over like all um SEO, social media video, like basically everything, and get me like I was, like I want to be number one on Google when people type in kitchen remodels in Sabrina park in.
Speaker 1:Arnold in Annapolis, and that's what they said they do, and they do it specifically for construction companies nice typically like larger scale, like commercial people, but they take on smaller smaller companies with something like that run about 60 000 a year.
Speaker 1:It's fair, yeah, so if the way that I look at it is, if I wanted to hire somebody and this is what this guy kind of explained to me and it makes sense so like I would have like four different divisions that I would work with. Like there's an SEO division and I have a rep and that all they do is SEO, and then I have a social person All they do is social media. Like then I have I forget what. There's. There's like four categories of people and the way he pitched it and it made sense. He's like you can go hire one person and they could maybe be mediocre at each one of these things, or you can hire us for the same amount of money 60 000 is about what I would have to pay a starting like person and we will have four people that specialize in exactly what you want them to specialize in, and I don't have to worry about the employee taxes and workers compensation and all that
Speaker 1:compliance stuff that we're going through right now with the, with the consulting company that we're paying, paying a lot of fucking companies to tell us what to do. It seems like. But that's kind of the direction that I want to go. I want to be like I have that sign up dude. That sign it on evergreen has been just crushing. He actually the guy on the sales call when he's like, are you p home run the same company doing that house on evergreen, he's like I live in savannah park. I'm like, yeah, that's us. So I'm going heavy on the marketing for the homeowners and residential remodels, new builds, stuff like that. Um, it's just better money man for less. There's still risk, obviously, but the the I think why this is why this part is of my business is going so well is because the real estate is struggling, because people aren't moving. Instead they're putting an addition on because they want to go bigger.
Speaker 3:Something that we were talking about too is like saverna park is very intra-family, right. So you get somebody that their grandma's lived in that house 40, 50, 60 years. It's paid off. Now they pass it down to the grandchild or their daughter or whatever and they're like all right, well, I know I don't want to sell this paid off house. I could, but I'm gonna pay a bunch of capital gains. It's also saverna park, so why wouldn't I just move in it, spend 200, 300k, pull a heloc or whatever and then renovate it? Like to me that makes sense. Um, or they're in a situation where they did refi and they have like a two and a quarter or three percent rate and they don't want to move. So they'll just pop the top and do an addition. So I mean, yeah, that's. I mean that's pretty much ever.
Speaker 1:That one on evergreen, that's what the guy. It was his grandmother's house and he took it over when she passed away and he's doing a giant rehab on it, making it a brand new house in zibirna park. Those other people on cedar the big, the big house on cedar that we're rebuilding that again those people they owned the house and they were like, instead of buying another one, they just built their own. So I don't know. I think that that business is going to do well as the real estate market struggles. So that's kind of been our focus, yeah yeah no, it's a good, great point.
Speaker 2:You know, as we all know four or five years ago, a homeowner can get a two, three percent interest, so why would they even sell that? It's actually almost foolish to, even if somebody like actually has to move. Let's say, for example, for work, like they should keep that house and if they had to move, just buy another house because it's free money, dude, yeah selling a house that you have two or three percent.
Speaker 3:It's just not a good business choice it's not a good business I just I mean to me people are like, oh, rates will get down there and it's like dude, I don't know man, I just unless they just announced today it was like 0.25, drop like it's nothing yeah so, and that doesn't have anything to do with really the mortgage rates.
Speaker 1:I mean a little bit, but not really. So I don't know, I don't think we're going to see low, low rates for a little while, like I think that they're going to stay kind of where they're at or a little, maybe get a little bit lower, but I don't know. I think, yeah, I think people, less people are moving and doing additions and staying where they're at.
Speaker 3:This is like where I tell my agents too is like, okay, well, it's slows up for you business wise, but this could also be an opportunity for you to start adding properties to your portfolio, picking up good deals that have set on the market. Because I was talking to one agent the other day and she said, uh, she had a cash buyer, there was a house on the water, it was listed at 950 and uh, they came in, offered 870 and they took it and it's like those, there's deals to be had there. It's just how long are people willing to sit? I mean, the one in chipley's you, you had or not you had, but the you were competing with it did a 50k price drop. Is it pending yet?
Speaker 3:yeah, it is yeah, I just looked the other day. That's good, it's a nice house, it's nicer than the one that I'm selling.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, unfortunately, I would say anything over like but those guys are taking a bath on that. That's good. It's a nice house. It's nicer than the one that I'm selling. Yeah, yeah, unfortunately. I would say anything over like, but those guys are taking a bath on that house. Yeah, Like they're.
Speaker 2:they're losing a lot of money there. Yeah, so is that like a home? That house was done and they were selling it to a homeowner the one that reduced 50 grand.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like turnkey stuff, but even the ones that aren't like. There's one in Arnold that we're looking at right now and Sean's like taking a couple of his investors through that. Like those people look like an investor picked it up at an auction, thought they were going to flip it, and now they're like trying to resell it and like now, walk away.
Speaker 3:And Sean called the agent and was like this is what we're offering. And she was like, yeah, that's not going to work. He's going to lose money. And Sean's like I don't know what that's got to do with me, but this is the offer. Can you present it, you know? Like it doesn't matter if he's losing money or not. Like this is what we're willing to pay right now.
Speaker 2:And yeah, or you can just sit on it on the market, they'll come to that realization, yeah.
Speaker 1:So you want to hear another um, a cool want to do, maybe so mobile kitchen right. So when I'm doing like a kitchen remodel, you have a kitchen in a trailer dude.
Speaker 3:All right, I'll have carl showroom.
Speaker 1:Let's see if carl can post this on.
Speaker 2:No, I think like so that they can cook.
Speaker 1:But yeah, no, no, so they can cook there's carry out though look pretty cool. We'll have to have carl post this video, I mean what's the average time frame of like uh? So I looked this company up um.
Speaker 2:It was the average time frame for you to do a kitchen, like four to six weeks okay, so I guess it is and I'm confused who's the clientele? No, no, it's for if he has, if he's doing a, a rehab kitchen, it's for the homeowners to have a kitchen to use in the meantime yeah, oh, you're gonna rent it to him, or no?
Speaker 3:yeah, so that's this.
Speaker 1:That's what this company does. It's called kitchen cube. They're out of the uk this is actually cool kitchen cube.
Speaker 1:You should send me a check for this plug they. They rent it by the week and or by the month. So one week is 350, um, two weeks is 585, three weeks is 820, four weeks is a thousand bucks. So typically, let's just say a kitchen is and it's 235 a week after that, so that's like an extra five. So it's like 1500 bucks for the entirety of the time that you because, like we're starting a kitchen on monday, we're about to tear their kitchen out. We're doing a lot of shit in there, moving electric, moving some plumbing, blah, blah. That's six weeks. They're not going to have anything to cook with besides like a microwave that they can plug in somewhere maybe. But they could just get a trailer delivered with a nice little kitchen in it and pay 1500 bucks and at the price point that I'm doing these kitchens at 1500 bucks is really not like that much, right?
Speaker 1:you get a couple of those trucks with trailers in it yeah and then I could start calling other remodelers, like high-end, you know remodeling companies and getting them to sell it to their clients, yeah, or just adding it in their package. Right, for two thousand bucks you get a kitchen, you get a temporary kitchen yeah, it's pretty cool.
Speaker 2:Well. So, yeah, I think adding it on versus like adding, adding it after, offering it after, like, look, we can include this into this deal. That way it's like it's an, it is an upsell, but then it's also you're providing something else something that another contractor isn't providing, like you're like oh, I didn't even think about that. I'm not gonna have a kitchen for six weeks. What am I gonna do? Oh, there's a kitchen right outside for me.
Speaker 3:That's what I was thinking, Like you just build that into your price.
Speaker 2:Like however long the rehab's going to take, and if they want to take it off, have them take it off.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and then if they're like, this price is a little higher.
Speaker 1:And then, like oh, trailer a 16,. I was just looking these up because I was looking at trailers.
Speaker 2:Like $6,000 to $8,000 for the trailer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so you can get a good trailer for $6,000, right, how much can it cost to build out one of those things?
Speaker 2:$10,000 maybe I would say $15,000 for a whole thing $15,000 with appliances. Well, yeah.
Speaker 3:You got to have a water tank, though right, a holding tank.
Speaker 1:No you, you would have a hose hookup like my, like the boat does so, like when we get to like a shore when we get to shore, you just plug in a hose and the hose runs and then you just have an uh under the sink water heater and a filter. And yeah, you can have a field. You could put a filter right onto the hose connection, but you just pop like a camper.
Speaker 1:You know like a camper has you just connect the hose to it, um, and then it'll have like a drain tank for the gray water, that just like a porta potty. You'd have to come and have people, somebody, service it so often or whatever.
Speaker 2:I guess the good thing they wouldn't be like using the bathroom in there, so they would.
Speaker 1:It's just gray water from the sink would be the only thing.
Speaker 2:And then, I guess, a generator to run the stuff.
Speaker 1:I would just run a plug from their house. Yeah, plug it right in. I mean you could get a propane grill to go, so you have propane for the grill and then electric just to plug. And you could even get a 30-amp plug for a boat, like a bigger one, so you can put a plug and you can even get like a 30 amp plug like for like a boat you know, like a bigger one so you can put like a microwave and all that.
Speaker 1:I don't know man could be. Uh, could be a cool project opportunity could be an opportunity. Um so, uh, I had another thing, oh sad about charlie kirk. Huh, yeah you, you should pay some sort of tribute to him. That's really sad it is. I've been seeing all sorts of crazy conspiracies and stuff, but ultimately they caught the guy and it was just as a kid.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's one thing to imagine doing something like that and I'm sure there's a lot of people who didn one thing to like imagine doing something like that. I'm sure there's a lot of people who don't, who didn't like him wanting to do something like that, and then it's another thing to like actually planning out and actually follow through with it, which that kid obviously did, and it's like crazy, just the whole, whole situation yeah, I I posted something the other day.
Speaker 3:I was really like kind of hesitant on posting and I think a lot of us mean I'm sure you guys probably had to think like, oh, like I have clients or somebody's going to see this, or I think that's just sad man, like that, we have to think about that before we post views. But like, should we die for our opinions? And that's literally what he did is like people are acting like, um, that we're praising him or we're like he's some god we're worshiping, because we're like like mourning his death. The problem is it's it's not just about who he was, but it was what he stood for on free speech, and that's my biggest issue with it is like people are like, oh well, what about the kids that you know got got shot in Colorado?
Speaker 3:It's like, yes, that's awful as well. Like I 100% agree with you. Nobody's life is more valuable than the other person's life. The problem is when you start having political assassinations and we start killing each other for opinions, that's what Civil War like, that's how Civil War happens. So, like that's my big thing is like, like I understand, like there, anybody that gets assassinated is awful, but on the same token as like political assassination is like it's, it is what, it's what it is to to bring some levity to this conversation.
Speaker 1:Can we imagine just for a second the left versus the right? We have a bunch of blue-haired um people with beanies on, and, and, uh, you know whatever. Uh, what are those people? Called the, the fuzzies, the furries, the furries we got a bunch of furries coming out and then it's just then. It's all the rednecks and all the the people on the right with all the guns. It would be. It would be a riot to watch.
Speaker 3:Well, it's also interesting. It's like the first one's the point to like gun violence is the people that are killing people with guns.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So it's kind of interesting. It's like we need more gun control. It's like, no, we need more mental health control.
Speaker 2:And at first, you know, when it came out, we didn't really know what was going on. The news didn't know what was going on and they were saying people on Facebook who were, like you know, supported what the shooter did. They're like, oh, look at this now, it was a Republican who shot him. You know a straight guy who's a Republican. And then we find out that he was having sexual relations with a transgender and he wasn't. Republican, you know. So the truth finally came out.
Speaker 3:But like to see people post like, oh, you know, this guy had a gun and he's republican, when that wasn't even the case yeah, and then the dad turns him in after going to the priest and um also, they turn the reward money down and is giving it to the charlie kirk family.
Speaker 1:Um I, I saw it, but okay, I don't know if that was true.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I fact check I don't know.
Speaker 3:I just saw that, so I saw that too, but then I also saw something that's saying that that was fake, that like it wasn't a million dollar reward, it was like a hundred thousand dollars so it was a hundred thousand dollar reward from the fbi, but apparently some political figures and I again I don't know this is just facebook news, right, but of a couple political figures like offered a more, a bigger reward of a million dollars and so on, and it grew so there's a lot of stuff circulating the web that's like ai generated and it's more so to get a debate going and clicks and views and comments.
Speaker 2:However, that the director of fbi did say that the night that he was turned in, the hundred thousand dollars was released.
Speaker 3:So that's a fact, because the director of the fbi said that yeah, I also saw somebody else say that the fbi has never actually given a reward for like anything oh yeah really yeah, but then there's always like those top 10 yeah, yeah, most wanted yeah don't they have a reward? I would think yeah, I don't know. I just saw again. This is all just like. This is all fake news, just so you guys know you're listening.
Speaker 1:We are literally talking. We have no idea what we're talking about. We are not political commentators, or I yeah, I know anything about this subject at all, so but so before you roast us too bad in the comments they had to offer something because so many hours passed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like he should have been caught that same day it is crazy that he got away for that long. For that long yeah if he wanted to get away like forever after the first 24 hours, it would have been super easy for him too yeah he, if he could have got to mexico or canada, you know yeah, I mean with the messages with his transgender boyfriend, girlfriend, whatever he was telling him or her hey look, put the gun here, don't say anything, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:But he was the first one who said something and they were cooperative with the FBI, but he could have easily just been away for good One.
Speaker 1:there's so many cameras, so like facial recognition eventually would get well, no, no like of that.
Speaker 2:He would have gotten identified, just like his dad identified him. However, he could have been so far away to where it would have been like a chase to find him right versus his dad saying hey look, this is where he lives over here, go get him.
Speaker 2:And if they didn't offer that money, what his dad, his dad, probably hey look, this is where he lives over here, go get him. And if they didn't offer that money, what his dad, his dad probably still would have turned him in. But that's another question. Like the fbi was, they just didn't have any leads at that point. They were like we have to offer this money.
Speaker 3:Apparently they underestimated how many people were going to be there. Um, there was like over 3 000, some apparently.
Speaker 2:I think that's the biggest campus in Utah and they only had like six cops or something is from what I heard.
Speaker 3:Again, this is speculation, but I just think it's crazy that that happens. Business idea for you is I heard this after this and this is obviously not cool by any means but what about a security company that has drones and you have eight people? I was just going to say drones that records the whole time like four drones up high and it's like an AI that could just pick up on guns or something and scan every rooftop. You're telling me we can't do that.
Speaker 2:You can't see a rooftop when everyone's standing on the ground, as you said that before. You even said drone.
Speaker 1:I was in my head, I was. I was thinking drone, drone, drone. Like that you could literally do it with a fucking dji.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like maverick you get a couple of people you have like eight pilots throw them up and then, as they, as one comes down, another goes up, and you just keep rotating them and you're just like scanning the area and you're telling me we don't have ai. That could be built in that like picks up on a gun or like metal or something that just alerts you, right like hey, look into this person and they fly down and check like dude.
Speaker 1:You could probably charge like 10 grand for security like so that kid had to carry a rifle, jump up onto a roof of a college campus unseen. That's fucking crazy, as it is like getting away with getting up on the roof first of all. So you get up on the roof with a gun, you have to walk through campus to get there and then like going through that whole. He said in the text I guess he was planning it for like a week.
Speaker 3:Yeah, um but think about it, man. We're so all caught up in our day-to-day and our phones Like if you go to an event you don't think that something like that, so crazy, is going to happen, that you just suspect this guy that's walking with a gun.
Speaker 2:Or yeah, Even if he gets on the roof, you're like, oh, maybe that's just the security getting on the roof Like the one kid.
Speaker 3:There is a video of like oh, this guy's on the roof, but he's getting kind of getting up on there late, like they thought the security was just late and that he was a sniper for charlie kirk didn't even know, so like somebody saw him.
Speaker 1:But like you, you wouldn't expect that I would at one of those fucking events. Now, yeah, I mean, that's a lot of. When you get that many people riled up and yeah, um yeah, and people get radicalized, I don't know that that is. It's super sad. Um, they, this is another crazy thing. Then we can stop talking about death so much. But they said that they're, they're the potential to for death penalties on the table, and it would be by firing squad wild. That seems so ironic, medieval. Oh yeah, I mean ironic.
Speaker 3:I guess too, but that's yeah everybody was saying to a 200 yard shot is like it's got to be a professional dude. I'm in the military or I was in the military. I have a hunting background. By any means, 200 yards is not a hard shot and I think it's six. It was a big yeah, in the neck where he hit, I definitely think he was aiming chest or head. Um, some people are saying if he was aiming chest the where, because he was so elevated that he missed a little high. Um, that's why.
Speaker 1:But like, 200 yards is not a hard shot at all the 30 out six is a big caliber, so like it had some buck to it, so that he's probably that's probably why he missed high, because most of the time you would aim for their chest will you anticipate the the pull when you pull the trigger? If you're a professional. If you were a professional but he was, I don't think he was like no, you, if you're not a professional, you anticipate it.
Speaker 3:So you're like you're kind of jerking a little bit because you're like trying to give with the gun as it shoots. If you're a professional, you're squeezing it tight, you're just slow and steady and it keeps you more precision. But when you are an amateur, you kind of jerk back a little bit, anticipating the kick. So that's why a lot of people miss or they, you know the trigger, they're not smooth it definitely makes me want to go to events a lot less yeah knowing how safe they are not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know that is concerning you think about. I think about this all the time, like how many places I could have snuck in a weapon. Like I accidentally took a pocket knife, like a big dewalt pocket knife to grenada where my brother, when my brother was there, like on the plane, through tsa, through customs, had no idea it was there. I ended up just leaving it there because I didn't check a bag. But I was like damn, I got a fucking knife on this plane. And then you see somebody get away with assassinating somebody on top of a rooftop. Like we ain't safe anyway no, no, it's crazy.
Speaker 3:And guns is not gonna stop violence, man, I promise you. No, it's not gonna stop violence um.
Speaker 1:Anyway, moving on to um, this will actually come out, so we don't spend too much time on this. But chase and I, I might not be back hosting the podcast ever again after this weekend. There's a chance that one of us may die out on the Ironman course. I'm going to leave it. I'm going to leave it all there. It's the last race, the biggest one of the year.
Speaker 2:Who's more excited to?
Speaker 3:get it over with Probably me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'd definitely say me I'm ready I think we're equally ready to get it over with but I'm more excited to get it over with yeah, I'm definitely ready. I I was like good until like three, four weeks ago. Then, when it got like really crazy with long, long weekends and we're like working out for like six hours a day, and I actually told page yesterday I was like what am I gonna do?
Speaker 2:after wait. Are you gonna slow down on like working out?
Speaker 1:I mean I'm gonna still like stay in shape, but I'm not gonna do six hour saturdays yeah like I might do two hours dude this.
Speaker 3:How, how nice has this week been this week.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this taper week has been really nice. Haven't really done too much, couple short runs and stuff like that, but yeah, I'm ready. Man, it's been a fucking brutal, brutal couple months of training. I am nervous about the run. It's my longest run ever. It's my longest bike ever too. My longest bike was like 102 miles. Now we're doing 112. My longest run was like 18, I think 17, 18.
Speaker 2:Was that in another Ironman? No, it was just a training run a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 3:And that's like solo probably Wait. So you Probably didn't bike and then run.
Speaker 2:So this is actually like a full Ironman the last one was 70.3.
Speaker 1:So that was half Half.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Okay and so that was half Half, yeah, okay, and you did the half one too, right, yeah. So this is the first full one.
Speaker 3:First one for all of us. I'm going to cry, I know.
Speaker 1:I'm going to cry. So it's me, Ben, Chase and Matt, and we're going to talk about trying to stick together in some way figure it out after we get out of the water, because we all swim a little bit different speeds To um. But to just have people with you, people with us, finish it really, yeah.
Speaker 3:So until somebody craps out, we're gonna try to stick together and uh, I think, even if, like someone craps out, like I'm still gonna stick with people, like I don't want to, I don't want to be by myself, dude, the 27 mile run is gonna be awful, after all 26.2.
Speaker 1:It's not even 27, whatever dude like after a hundred mile bike.
Speaker 3:I the other day, like last couple weeks ago when we did our hundred mile bike, like I was so done with working out that day and I was just like I have to, I'm ready to go.
Speaker 2:Did you run at all after that?
Speaker 3:I did, they did. I had to go show five miles.
Speaker 1:Five miles, were you like, dead after that yeah, but like I did it like as a training run. So like you, you know you're working like iron man effort's going to be like a little bit dialed back and in everything like if normally, like a half iron man, we would be shooting for like 22 miles an hour average on the bike, like we're gonna shoot for 20 and like the like usually we would run a half marathon in the eight minute pace, we're gonna shoot for like 10 minute pace, so you kind of just dial it back and pray a whole family's gonna be there, so that's gonna be my family, my coach, is gonna be there so that's gonna be cool.
Speaker 1:She's gonna be at one of the aid stations. Um, yeah, we're gonna. We're gonna get her done. You should take your boat down it's the well.
Speaker 2:I was just looking up on the map. It's like to get to annapolis. It's far from me, but I saw annapolis here and the place is way down here. How long is it gonna take you to get down there? Two hours, two hours, yeah. So definitely probably take me like two hours and 45 minutes if I took the boat yeah yeah it's, it's a ways.
Speaker 1:It's, it's definitely a ways, but it would. So it's two hours for me, but I'm all the way up to seven so I have to come down the seven and then so if I was in annapolis it would be like an hour and a half gotcha, so it might take me like two hours and 15 minutes yeah just over two hours I'd say um, how much does it cost to rent a slip there?
Speaker 2:it?
Speaker 1:was cheap. It was. I mean it's like 100 bucks a night or something.
Speaker 3:100, yeah, I think it's like you're staying on the boat, you guys yeah, we're staying, both of you are just you two it's four of us, four of us we're gonna be bro now, so I think matt has a hotel friday night saturday night or friday night friday night is that where the race starts at the hotel, like right around there?
Speaker 1:it's like the deck, that's like a couple minutes up the road, gotcha, but we'll have a like a social event or something tomorrow night. Um, but yeah, matt has a hotel friday night, so it'll be me, matt, ben and chase on the boat tomorrow night matt's leaving friday and then just chase I and ben you take your bikes on the boat uh match driving his truck.
Speaker 2:So we're gonna put the.
Speaker 1:But we have taken the bikes for eagle man. We took them um on the boat and it's just a pain in the ass. Like you got to take the bike apart, you got to like it's it's a pain we did it for that rock hall.
Speaker 2:It's a pain in the ass. Do you ride your bike? Are you gonna ride your bike from the hotel to the starting point, or how are you? Getting there, well, I guess, a match truck, yeah, one of the girls will drive us drop us off.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, I mean it's not too far, but we probably will not be riding our. We can't ride our bikes there, actually, because our bikes are going to be racked the day before okay, so everything's got to be put up the day before. Um, yeah, it'll be interesting. It's kind of set up different than the half ironmans and the and the other triathlons that we've done.
Speaker 3:It's not. The finish line isn't in the village. Did you see that? Yeah, it's different, it's a little ways away.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, weather's supposed to be good. It might get a little hot. It's supposed to be like 77 degrees in the middle of the day.
Speaker 3:A ton of jellyfish we, matt went and swam the other day in the magothy and got stung all around his neck and it was so red he said it burned for like four hours straight.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's gonna be fantastic um, I was just like oh yeah, thanks for making it even harder than it already needed to be, you know because I know friday is supposed to be like 86 and sunny, and then saturday it cools down just a hair, but not much yeah yeah I was hoping it was going to be like, because what's going to suck?
Speaker 1:we're going to get out of the water and we're going to be chilly on the bike because it's going to be like 7, 8 am. It'd be like 60 degrees and then, right when we start running is going to be the hottest part it should be flip-flop.
Speaker 2:You should do the run first that would actually be about the sleeves, about sleeves what? Sleeves what?
Speaker 3:sleeves the arm sleeves for the bike. So did I, yeah, so that way you can just like you, slide them on and off real quick when you get warm. And then I bought actually like a head thing for the bike too, so that way like a, a do-rag, kind of Not a do-rag, but like a bandana of sorts Things that people ride with a motorcycle.
Speaker 2:But that way because I always get water like sweat dripping on my glasses and stuff, so hopefully that'll. Do you guys have like a towel that?
Speaker 2:you can, that you wipe off with at all, or no, yeah, not on the bike, but yeah, not not, we don't carry it, but like in transition, like in a little bag, yeah, um, but yeah it'll be not from the water but like, I guess, from the bike, between the bike and the end of the run, like aren't you like sweating to where you wouldn't need want to wipe your face off or something, or no?
Speaker 3:yeah, that's what I have. I got a headband for that, so that way I'll wear it under my hat, so that way all the sweat just drips to the back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just I just wear a running hat and that kind of absorbs everything. But I'm like by the end of the race, dude, I'm putting getting ice at the aid stations, putting it in my hat and I'm just, you're fully saturated.
Speaker 3:Last, the iron man main. This guy was standing there with a pitcher of ice and water and he was like and I was like, yeah, sure, dump it on me. So I just stood there and just got ice and it went all down my jersey all the way, because your jersey is one piece. So it was like I had a bunch of ice just sitting on my butt and it was like uncomfortable I'm like trying to let it out while I'm running.
Speaker 1:Yeah, crazy. Anything to cool, anything to cool yourself down out there is yeah, um, all right. So the other thing we're going to release another event soon, so keep posted. Oh, one cool thing Our Facebook has blown up 20,000 subscribers.
Speaker 1:Um, so shout out to Carl for that one, Cause he's been putting out him and Eric have been putting together out him and eric have been putting together, patching together a lot of old content since we haven't posted it at an episode, and that thing's just been steady growing this month. This past month we did 4.2 million views on facebook videos. Yeah, they're crushing it, man. That's pretty crazy. So that, um, we do have a. I have to give you guys some, do you? Do you work?
Speaker 2:out.
Speaker 1:I just started working out I have to get you some of this pre-workout. We're going to try it for this new uh sponsor, sponsor, yeah, so real quickly.
Speaker 2:I just started working out in june only because um one of lupe's friends reached out and said do you guys want to join this um competition on the move app? I'm sure you guys know about that and like it was like five teams of four and you compete against each other like weekly what's the move app have you heard of it.
Speaker 1:No, strava, basically probably yeah, you like you compete.
Speaker 2:So like, let's say there's six teams, you're up against one team per week. So let's say I'm against. You know it's us four on a team and another four on a team You're facing them per week. So you get points for runs, walks, you can do push-ups, weightlifting, pretty much any workout you can think of you get points for. You try to compete against the other team. So like I'm more of a competitor, I like to compete against people.
Speaker 3:So that kind of motivated me to actually start working out they have this other cool thing um that you might be interested in because you're a competitor um, it's called iron man um, you could, can I sign up still?
Speaker 2:you can still sign up. You need a bike. You got a spare bike in your garage I do we can print you off perfect size I have the perfect size for you, I could probably do the bike in the run, but you think you could do the bike in the run just? No training? Yeah, but not the swim dude.
Speaker 3:Okay, now we have to do a video we're gonna one day. We're gonna do. We'll just simulate an iron, we're just to do. We'll just simulate an Ironman, we're just going to have you untrained.
Speaker 2:We'll go bike 112 miles and then we'll run a marathon together. That'll be a great video and we'll see how you do.
Speaker 1:I'm ready. I think that he'll get to mile 70, 80 maybe.
Speaker 3:On the bike yeah and then you give up. I don't know if you make it 70, dude I think less than that.
Speaker 1:If we were riding somewhere flat, maybe like 70.
Speaker 2:So when you guys did the 100 miler, did you go like 50 miles and then start declining in miles per hour or you kept it the same the whole?
Speaker 3:time, same pace, yeah.
Speaker 2:And that was what 20?.
Speaker 3:Actually, at that last one the end was the fastest because it was the flattest. So we were what's and what's that pace for?
Speaker 1:like the 100 miler 20, 20 is like the goal for a race, but that was probably we did like 17, 18, yeah, because there was hills and yeah, and we had more stoppages, like we were stopping at red light, stopping at stops, you know stuff like that. Where in the race there will be less stoppages, it'll be more yeah, we didn't even talk about your accident on your bike oh yeah, I try to forget about that honestly, nick.
Speaker 2:Thank you, I almost forgot about it until you guys started talking about the race.
Speaker 1:I wish I had a video of that. Um, how did we honestly I do too did we not talk about you fucking crashing?
Speaker 2:not at all.
Speaker 1:No so chase buys a brand new 12 around 12 000 bike and rides it three times maybe four times.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And we went out on a very nice easy training ride. Ryan jinxed us.
Speaker 3:Let's not forget this part. Ryan wakes up kind of groggy in the morning. Go ahead, you tell it. Your wife threw you under the bus.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I woke up. I was a little groggy. I didn't feel like going out there and doing the work that we had to do, so I went. I think I said something along the lines of like, if we just got hit by a car, we wouldn't have to he was.
Speaker 3:Basically, I show up, I had an energy drink, I'm ready, like I was just ready for this morning, I don't know why and ryan was a little sleepy page walks out and she's like ryan. I don't I don't mean to be like a debbie downer, but chase just seems like he's got more energy and he's like, to be honest, I'm I'm kind of thinking about mile one just wrecking so you can come pick us up and I'm just saying, I'm not thinking of anything.
Speaker 3:I'm just like I hope you don't jinx yourself. And, um, I think page said that too. She was like said something about jinxing yourself and and then we get like and we're almost back by this point, and I'm we were, we were gonna.
Speaker 3:You were like 40 miles in we were gonna go like 60 or 70 that day, but yeah we were close um, close enough not to crash and, uh, I was following ryan, I was pretty close to him and the worst part is we were going uphill and there was a spot right there at the guardrail that was kind of in the road and he goes around it and I'm up on my handlebars, like holding the top arrow bars, and the way you're positioned and I'm trying to make an excuse for myself here the way you're positioned you're kind of like higher up on the bike, so it's really hard to turn the handlebars and make yourself turn. You have to kind of lean. It's kind of like riding a crotch racket a little bit. And so he goes around it. I see it the last second, go around it.
Speaker 3:And then my weight shifted to come back because there's cars flying past us at like 50 miles an hour. So I'm trying to get back. You know, on the shoulder a little bit and my weight just kind of carried me and I couldn't get my foot out to kick the guardrail and I'm like, well, I guess I'm going over. So I hit it. I didn't hit it like head on, I hit it kind of on the side and I just flipped over it. My feet come out everything and I'm like over the thing and my bike just did a 360 and, like stayed standing up. It was kind of cool actually, um I learned.
Speaker 1:All I heard was like boom, fuck. And then I saw him in the woods and it was just you two.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah did you have to like was your bike good or?
Speaker 3:yeah, the handlebar broke. Did you have to pay to get it fixed? It cost me 245 or something for new aero bars.
Speaker 2:But and you just ordered that online and did it yourself.
Speaker 1:I had to sit the manufacturer up and they sent me new ones so then we had to wait and came and picked him up and I ended up finishing that frame alone is six thousand dollars and it's carbon fiber, so like once it's got a crack, it's done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're screwed all the integrity so your feet are strapped in, like they're like clipped in.
Speaker 3:Yeah so and you can. I don't have mine super tight, so it's a little bit easier. Ryan's are probably a little tighter than mine. Um, but I like just being able to get out of mine really quick, like if you have to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, unfortunately not quick enough apparently you gotta practice that part, you gotta practice the quickness, yeah that it was kind of scary, like I thought he would have been way more hurt than he was, seeing like where he fell.
Speaker 3:There's like a stanchion post, like a metal, like with pointy edges yeah, I saw the picture that you posted yeah so I cut my finger up pretty bad and I was bleeding pretty good, but because I, like, grabbed the rail and it sliced my finger because it was just sharp, um yeah, so it's a wild world we live in, with chase on his little bicycle I just didn't want to do 20 more miles, to be honest that was a good way to get out of it.
Speaker 1:It was my idea you're welcome for that one. Um, yeah, I think that's. That's all I got today. I gotta go cook the wife uh, the wife. What kind of watch you got over there is that? Don't worry about it, dude what kind of watch you? Got over there. Is that a don't worry about it dude? What kind of watch?
Speaker 3:is that? I just looked at yours. I was surprised you're wearing your rolly over there I don't think nick saw my new watch yet no, I didn't yeah nice nice little investment. Can we debate that? Is that nice? It's a, it's a investment. Is it an investment, nick? I think nick would probably be on the same page as you, honestly so yeah.
Speaker 1:So this watch, when let's just I forget what year I looked it up, but like 1990s, this watch was like 2 000 bucks. You could still and like these, you could still get a 1990s model right now and it would be like 11 000,000. So investment, that's a long time to hold it. Well, that's what people the watches like the Swiss watches like they last forever, like there's no battery?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just it's.
Speaker 1:You have to get it serviced every seven years by you know. Send it into Rolex and they keep it for a couple weeks and they tune it or whatever. But yeah, yeah, you know what this watch has started already so many conversations. So like I was racing cars this weekend first day, wore my garmin watch then realized because after you have something or you see something, you realize when other people have it like you start to notice it where normally, normally you probably wouldn't.
Speaker 1:And I saw I don't know a dozen people wearing rolexes on the race, like at the racetrack, like doing you know, walking around the different pits and um, whatever. So then I wore my rolex the next day, had like three conversations that day with people like oh, like, I've been explorer, you have a yacht master, like you have a submariner, so it's a good conversation starter. I was at a restaurant the other night and I met like my sister-in-law's, boyfriend's, brother or sister, whatever, and first thing he's like oh well, like your watch, like kind of watch that like I've been trying to get into collective watches.
Speaker 1:So it is a conversation starter and um I am looking at it as an investment yeah, I agree I agree, do you have anything?
Speaker 2:I don't. Yeah, I'm surprised I don't have one piece of jewelry.
Speaker 1:This is it for me. I don't have any other jewelry.
Speaker 3:So I was talking to Kristen's cousin about watches, because he's a watch guy too, but he also dresses pretty nice, so do I dude, I got my PE property management shirt.
Speaker 1:No, not that you don't.
Speaker 3:It, dude, I got my p property management shirt. No, not that you don't just see this yeah, no, you're, you're to the t dude.
Speaker 1:You look great, um, but like he's like, he wears like linen his. His wife dresses him. But shout out to p home remodeling for sponsoring this episode and this outfit here.
Speaker 3:Yeah um, but so he had. He's like dude, this is like a guy's piece, right, like if you have a watch or you have bracelets, that's like all of us can we can only wear certain combinations of stuff before we're all just looking the same but like if you have a certain watch, he's like dude, you need to find your watch. He wears a what's the one brighton, yeah, um, so that's like his thing and he's like you know, rolexes are some people's thing and you just got to find your watch or whatever.
Speaker 1:But it's a it's a crazy world. Like I don't want to speak too much because I don't really know that much yet about it. I've been still like learning. But like just to get like I I told them what model I wanted at the at the jewelry store and like they don't like, just have them readily available they have to, like, call around and find, you know, find them.
Speaker 1:So, like this one, they flew in from chicago. And then the other one I wanted to see a one with a blue face, and they flew it in from somewhere else.
Speaker 3:Oh, just for you to see it just for me to try it on and see it, and then I picked the one that I wanted and they sent back the other one, but it's not like something that's just like at the store, readily available yeah, ever since you bought one, I've been watching this one guy in new york that just like moses maybe I've watched him on instagram.
Speaker 3:One of them he just opened a store or something yeah, probably he's funny yeah I like it, though, like they, and that's all they do is just sell the watches and flip watches. Yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 1:So like I'm I'm looking for, I've been looking now I've just been like looking at watches, watches, you know, but um, some of them, dude, are like they're the details are still get so crazy. So, like the same watch with like a different um bracelet or a different like bezel could change the price by 20 or $30,000. Like it's wild. Like the one um I was looking at was like the same model as this, but it was. It had like a different face and a different like bezel or something and it was like 30, $40,000 more. So it's a wild fucking game and the prices go up and down. But like if you get in and, like you, you get an allocation from rolex or from some of these people. Like you could pretty much instantly sell most of them and make money. Like if you get a new one like patex, you can get them for like 100k and they're instantly like some of them are like three hundred thousand dollars. Like just because you, you have to get like approved to buy it is that it's the text.
Speaker 2:A brand of rolex? No, it's a brand. It's a brand of watch yeah.
Speaker 1:So there's like a couple of like big you know name brand or like watch makers that um trade higher than retail, but like they'll sell x amount of them, but they only sell certain amount so it's limited to where the value goes up and they only sell it to specific people, and then you have to try to buy it on the secondary market if you want it.
Speaker 3:So god, I couldn't imagine getting getting a fake or something. Yeah, and then hard to tell because you can only get it on the secondary market.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's why it's important you got to get it like, so they. They gave me an appraisal with my like. I brought it like. I bought it at a very reputable jeweler, for to begin with, they're an authorized rolex dealer, so that's a big one. And then it comes with box and papers make sure it has the papers and matches the serial number, you got the green box.
Speaker 3:Yeah, cool. Yeah, that's big too, from what I see this guy just the empty box is worth 500 bucks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, just the empty box, without, without the watch, um, but yeah, it's a cool. It's a cool conversation starter. Um, I only had my fitness watch and I would go to like a wedding or go somewhere and you don't have anything like nice to wear. They do say, wearing a watch, like at an interview or at a meeting, does make a difference. It gets like something that people look at yeah, I don't know I just have a michael course over here is that what that is since
Speaker 1:high school, nice. Yeah, nick, I'll start sending you some. Okay, I'll take a look at it. Start sending you some, don't worry, I'll get you on the game. And then they have watch meetups and shit like oh yeah, yeah, yeah, like there's one in Columbia I think it's in Columbia where a guy like rents out a room in a restaurant and people just come in and like they rock their you know, different watches and they all meet and talk about it and touch each other or whatever. I don't really know what the fuck they do.
Speaker 2:Be rich cucks, yeah, just be rich together, I guess, I don't know. Um, all right, I think that's it, guys. What? Uh? So I think if you guys have october 23rd open, that might be the date for the next event are we about to just cold announce this right now without any?
Speaker 1:I could do the 23rd. We do have to call the. We have to call uh, yeah, we'll make it happen, ross and and mike griffith, to make sure we can use the space on that day, but uh 10 to 10 yeah october 23rd, uh, six to nine albers and associates and hopefully, uh, I'm saying this and I'll get permission, and if not, I'll announce on the next one that we're not having the event there. So probably shouldn't have fucking announced anything, really.
Speaker 2:But either way, we're walking on that date, october 23rd baby six to nine. We'll let you know the location all right, all right, guys.
Speaker 1:Until next time, see ya.
